I keep having the exact same conversations with Mormons and they all give the same types of answers. Not Surprising since most believe a lot of the same thing. But I find it to be interesting. When you prove them wrong, they invariably end the conversation with you and keep preaching the things you proved them wrong about. What makes it more interesting is that it can be done using their own writings.
The biggest earmark of a cult is the indoctrination factor. They train up these people so well to give the same answers. They know exactly what they believe, but they refuse to think for themselves. Are they afraid to think? Yes, some of them. If they do, and they begin to doubt Mormonism, they have to do something about it. After all that effort.
Their study of the Book of Mormon and the Bible are guided by people telling them what they mean, instead of personal study of what’s actually there.
Now, the whole religion of Mormonism either wins out or flunks the exam, on the story of Joseph Smith. I’ll tackle the Book of Mormon another time. For now we shall examine this individual and the writings within the church he founded.
According to the Evening and Morning Star, July 1833 page 1, the only way to ascertain if someone is a true prophet is to compare his prophecies with the ancient word of God, and see if they agree. If they do, and come to pass, then the individual is certainly a true prophet. When any man, therefore, no matter who or how high his standing is, utters or publishes anything at all to be found untrue, he is a false prophet.
The Evening and Morning Star.. A Mormon publication, said this.
Joseph Felding Smith, in the Doctrines of Salvation 1:188 agreed with me, that Mormonism must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He is either a prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this country has seen. There’s no middle ground. According to Deuteronomy 18:20-22 a prophet of God must be right 100% of the time.
“But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”
So far, Mormons I know agree with me. So now it’s time to show y’all why I say there are fallacies within the story of Smith.
According to the 84th section of the D&C the temple that Joseph Smith prophesied about was to be built in Jackson County Missouri, before the generation living in 1832 passed away, and that he would dedicate the temple with his own hand. This would be the start of the new Jerusalem.
Guess what didn’t happen? In fact, when you open your mind and study them out, you find that Joseph smith was wrong more than 50% of the time when he prophesied. That, according to the Bible, the Evening and Morning Star, and Doctrines of Salvation, this makes him a false prophet.
But according to many people I know within the Mormon church, you have to follow a bunch of rules and doctrines to get to spend eternity with God. What a shocker for me.. Since the Bible clearly says otherwise.
The Mormon church also teaches some interesting fallacies. Such as the notion that Joseph Smith used seer stones to translate out the Book of Mormon, and the Bible.
Seer stones. Let’s define this term and then deal with the origins and literal use.
Seer is in reference to sight. Far off sight. In conjunction with a stone this is a crystal ball for gazing into.
So a crystal ball. And witches and occultists everywhere laugh about this notion. A crystal ball doesn’t let you translate anything. As someone who has personally used one, I can promise you that. The function of it varies from person to person, depending on why they use it, but not once in true history did it translate anything. So an occultic tool For divination. What does God say about divination? Oh yeah… Not to.
Then there’s the idea that you need to wait for a “warmth in your bosom.” When dealing with scriptures or spiritual things. That is also not supported in the Bible. In fact, when Gods spirit moves, I never feel a warmth in my bosom. However, when I was a practicing witch, I felt that all the time. Leads one to wonder.
And if Joseph Smith was a true prophet, why doesn’t his church use his own translation? You know.. The one he supposedly translated with Seer stones.
Anyways. Don’t just make a decision based upon what I’ve found. I challenge you to find a true, Bible believing church, and learn what’s in the Bible regarding Salvation and how you too, can be saved. All you have to do is Think! Let go of any preconceived notions about what it says, and read the Bible. For yourself.